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Posted on September 30, 2010 | View 724 | Comment : 43
Ayodhya beyond judicial resolution.
The Allahabad High Court’s verdict on the Ayodhya title suits will hardly resolve the dispute. That is a task to be accomplished outside the courts, through political practice.
Political parties must accept this responsibility and conduct themselves accordingly. To say the Republic’s institutional integrity is supreme is one thing, but for the courts to be able to modulate societal behaviour to the constitutional norm is something else altogether.
Suppose the high court rules that the Waqf board is the rightful owner of the property on which the Babri mosque stood before its demolition in December 1992.
Will that make Hindu groups, especially members of the Sangh Parivar, the group of organisations ideologically and tactically guided by the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, reconcile themselves to not building a temple at what they believe to be the birthplace of Ram?
Will the Waqf board be right to remove the idols of Ram being worshipped at a makeshift shrine built at the site where the mosque once stood?
If, on the other hand, the court upholds a pro-temple title claim, would that mean that Muslims should recognise the entire movement to demolish the mosque, launched in 1982, complete with its blood spoor of hatred and violence, as legitimate?
Whichever side loses the case on Thursday is bound to go on appeal to the Supreme Court. That would only push back the day of reckoning, not make the questions disappear.
The obvious answer to these questions shows the majesty of the law rests, ultimately, on the will of the people, in whose name laws are enacted and upheld.
The will of the people is articulated by political parties. They must behave with responsibility.
The Congress would want no strife in the wake of the court verdict. The BJP, too, would want to avoid an immediate backlash that could see off their valuable ally in Bihar, but that would not restrain its allies in the Parivar.
Mulayam and Lalu would want to play aggressive champions of Muslims; so might Mayawati. Muslims should resist such patronage and focus on strengthening democracy, the sole guarantor of minority rights.
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- traditianally the structure was a temple is proven.it was rebuilt as but shakin kurf shikan mentality(murti bhanjak dharma rakshak) & the crogress has no political agenda but to stey in power just ruling the government is prooved again thats it
Posted by vishal shenoy | 08 Oct, 2010
- If the politicians are permitted to handle this issue it will never get settled. There comes some moments in the life of a Nation when it is forced to sort out such issue and correct the errors committed centuries ago. Hindus have been struggling since five centuries and lacs and lacs persons have sacrificed their life for the temple site. If it is proved that there was a temple and still lies buried, then nation has to be be courageous enough to remedy the mistake committed by some fanatic long time back intoxicated by brute ruling power of that time. It is debt of history which has to be discharged and that time has come, unless more sacrifice is required.
Posted by Mahender Prakash Sharma,|02 Oct, 2010
- This are nothing but bit political and rest media maniac. Politics controls the judiciary as well as the media so to gain political mileage this has been made an issue .
Posted by bipul das | 02 Oct, 2010
- hey people it is one the best administrative actions. It is larger politics too. Do you realise WE DON'T HAVE OIL. Well at last a blow to pseudo Secularism. Does anybody realise we need to redeem our brethren our coutrymen from 700 years of servitude. Do we realise Mr. Jinnah saw more than rest of our so called secularists.
Posted by sumanth singh | 02 Oct, 2010
- Indian Media is the greatest culprit in the TRADE OF HYPOCRISCY IN INDIA. When they shed great amount of variagated CROCODILE TEARS for both sides of the fence, they are the greatest hermaprodites who keep discreetly silent of the nefarious activities of the community of "***&***" who have desecreted and defiled the thousands of HISTORICAL Temples in East Pakistan and Bangladesh. Where is the Dacca Kalibari ?
Posted by Buddhadev Bose | 01 Oct, 2010
- Indian leaders are truly great art lovers. no person in India has ever objected to the destruction of thousands of Historical Hindu Temples in erstwhile East Pakistan and existing Bangladesh. Art-lovers are great , and they will do anything for their passions. So, hypocriscy is the ORDER OF THE DAY.
Posted by bose buddhadev | 01 Oct, 2010
- The judgement is potically motivated where two major political parties joined hands. The court forgot the barbaric act that a structure was demolished by force claiming innocent lives in 1992. The judgement has legalized the above barbaric act paving way for such incidents in the future. The judgement will pave the way for hindusthan instead of a secular Bharat
Posted by Anwar Hussain | 01 Oct, 2010
- The issue is a Delicious food for The Politicians who created a broken unhealthy India in 1947..
Posted by SWADESRANJAN TARAL | 01 Oct, 2010
- THE PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION HAVING ANY REAL INTEREST TO MY BELIEVE IS NOT OVER 10%. IT IS THE MEDIA WHO IS TRYING TO RAKE UP AN HYPE TO INCREASE THEIR TRP. THE NARROW MINDED POLITICIANS ARE TRYING TO ENCASH SENTIMENTS OF THE LESS EDUCATED CLASS FOR PERSONAL POLITICAL GAINS RIDING ON THIS ARTIFICIAL HYPE.
DEBASHS DAS, NEW ALIPORE, KOLKATA - 700053
Posted by DEBASHIS DAS | 01 Oct, 2010
- there is no respect for the law in this country. The way the verdict was delivered without any pussy-footing is applaudable. But the way some people in the media are hyping & whipping up a frenzied environment, the repercussions could be disastrous & then you can't turn back the clock
Posted by shivani sharma | 01 Oct, 2010
- lets forget everything as politicians willn't spare anybody including god to mislead & gain personally.help economy 2 grow other things will make us prosper & live happyly forever
Posted by SANTOSH PAWAR,|01 Oct, 2010
- let us be practical. I have always said read history. YES the judicial action has handled the issue well and Indian Judiciary is capable of handling such issues very well. THE COURT'S DECISION HAS STRENGTHENED LAW AND ORDER PROBLEM AND GIVEN THE GOVERNMENT A LEGITIMATE RIGHT TO USE ITS POWER. But the question is do all country men consider country supreme than religion or religion is bigger than borders. There might be a section of society which feels that a wrong done almost five hundred years ago has been corrected. TALKS WHAT TALKS? TWO NATIONS TWO RELIGIOUS SITES, TWO PARTITIONS, NO OTHER SOLUTION.
Posted by sumanth singh | 01 Oct, 2010
- The verdict of the court was in the right direction. The issue is settled by the court now that the place is Ram janmabhoomi. How the Mosque was built and who built it is immaterial. However, the issue will be settled only by the will of the people by clean political practise and unfortunately we do not have a single political party in this country having that clean intention. Thus the concerned responsible persons from both Hindu and Muslim comunities should come togather and resolve the issue amicably keeping in mind that both has to co-exist in this country peacefully. Both the communites had committed mistakes and atrocities, but this is not the time to recount that and we should move forward in the interest of humanity and build a beautifull Temple and Mosque, where ppeople of all ...See More
Posted by s b pillai | 01 Oct, 2010
- Court verdict is very clear on this issue to bring three paries in a common platform.
My humble request to all three parties to please sit together and carry out some social welfare activities for the upliftment of mankind irrespective of cast ,creed and religion with the financial assistance of Central & State Govts.This may be done on constructing some primary/secondary schools/colleges and hospitals on the said land.
This would help to strengthen our democracy as well as proper respect to each religion. So far my knowledge goes the main objective of each religion relates to upliftment of Mankind only.
Shyamal Dey Biswas, Solutions Delivered to Business,Kolkata.
Posted by Shyamal Dey Biswas , Proprietor at Solutions Delivered to Business | 01 Oct, 2010
- Ayodhya issue has been there for decades, the actual solution lies with the people, neither any court nor politicians can resolve this, the courts would go by the evidence produced before them, whereas politicians will only aggravate the issue to suit their vote banks, this issue is of faith & relegious sentiments which are deep rooted in the minds of people, there should be a voting system, wherein general public can voice their opinions and agreement reached upon through majority.
Posted by Frazer Keswani , Partner at US & eom | 01 Oct, 2010
- The issue is being unduly blown out of proportion by media and those having vested interest in such media hype. Imagine, with such hype the mass is not even aware of crucial court decisions impacting their lives and livelihood. Let the issue take its own course, without interference by media, political perties and any social or religious group. Ram or Rahim or their so called creators in the Allahabad High Court are not liable to feed the mass, defend the country in danger, clean the society of corruption, immune of pollution, social evils, superstition, poverty, illness, unemployment and many other burning issues looming large. The younger generation (even those elders, young by heart), to simply ignore and boycot any further media hype on this isse.
Posted by Mrityunjoy Seal , Secretary & Legal Counsel at Indian Explosives Limited | 01 Oct, 2010
- Ayodhya issue created by political parties and they want the issue to be live. Political paties want mailege from this issue. Therefore political solutions won't resolve the issue rather they will complecate the issue. This issue can be solved through issue based ballot from peoples of india or amicable settlement between the religious leaders.
Posted by sridharan | 01 Oct, 2010
- The Hon'ble High Court try to resolve the issue in amicable manner dividing the equal portion of land between all the concerned parties. As a true Indian I welcome the decision of the Hon'ble Court and hope the long lasting dispute will end by this judgment. but at the same time the judgment has raise some ?? ..i.e
ASI is the topmost agency of India and in the light of the report submitted by the ASI the judgment over the ownership of the land should have been in the favour of either party??
Posted by Rakesh Bhardwaj , Compliance Officer at Jindal Group | 01 Oct, 2010
- judicial officers can not go beyond the relief claimed,but in this matter two high court judge 100% go beyond&give their decision as constitutional bench not under the provisions of civil .p.code. this act of these judges open new practice for lower courts to go beyond the matter as claim between parties. these judges fail to solve the matter in question& the dispute still stands in the way of parties&government.
Posted by amitabh srivastava , advocate at high court lucknow | 01 Oct, 2010
- When issue is resolved and welcomed by all sections why there will be appeals ?
why Indian secularism put to test again?
Why not all parties be guided by public interest and save Indian Sub continent from unnecessary friction and tension ?
Posted by Satya Narayana Palukuru,Advocates & Mediators at Advocate , Hyderabad|01 Oct, 2010
- The Court Verdict is loud and clear. While the title suits have been dismissed, equal part of land has been ordered for three main parties. Neither Ram is existing nor Babar is living. We have now crossed about 500 years. It is time that three parties sit together and demarcate their portions of land. Thereafter, with mutual cooperation build temple and masjid. Indians can do it.
Posted by RAMANARAYANAN SAMBAMURTHY , Steno Secretary at GRSE Limited | 30 Sep, 2010
- There are more important issues to be resolves than a piece of land. No one can deny that the piece of land belongs to INDIA right. The fact remains that there was a temple complex there till Babar came and utilised it for building a mosque. Nobody can deny history and facts. so, there have been prayers offered at the site by both muslims and hindus. And when God says "I am everywhere", who are we humans to bind him to one place. In fact I would say we only show off our naivety and only we humans can achieve this...fighting on petty issues.
Posted by Rashmi | 30 Sep, 2010
- Judicial verdict is merely for academic interests. In the long standing ineterest of the country it will be heads Indians loose and tails the others win. No Political party can help the cause, it is for the people to come forward enmasse and resolve the situation,a pragmatic approach is called for. At the end of the day in one's fight for Roti, kapda aur makan, one mosque or temple less will have no forbearing on the wellbeing of their family.
Posted by Sanjay Pande,Manager Contracts at GRV Construction Works|30 Sep, 2010
- At this point of time our country need peace not the temples & mosque, whatever constructed will beneficial only to political parties , common man will be cheated as always by political parties for their benefit, its my humble request to people of my country to think rationaly & act intelligently and most importantaly talk & speak responsibily.
One more temple or mosque at the cost of several death of our indians & AT THE COST OF DEATH OF BROTHELY RELATIONS OF DEFERENT COMMUNITY IN OUR COUNTRY IS ALWAYS A DEAL OF LOSS.
IF WE HAVE TO SHOW WORLD OUR POWER & RISE AS A SUPER POWER ....... STOP BEHAVING LIKE PUPPETS IN POLITACAL HANDS
Posted by CHHAYA JAIN | 30 Sep, 2010
- The Ayodhaya issue is more political than religious. If the politicians are kept out of the issue I believe a pragmatic solution acceptable to all can be found out. The court has also given a very good judgment and all the disputing parties should adhere to it without furthering the judicial process. We should bear it in our mind by prolonging the dispute no one in India is benefitted except the politicians.
Posted by Debasis | 30 Sep, 2010
- The will of t he people is led by the court's verdict. Today the media also played its role very very responsibly. It showed how Muslims and Hindus are living together in Ayodhya. It makes great impact on common man's opinions. So once the opinions are made because of media and the court's verdict, the wish of people automatically follow. People now know the preciousness of 'Shanti' and will try to follow at the best. Adv. Neelima Mysore.
Posted by Neelima Mysore | 30 Sep, 2010
- The disputed land is the property of govt. of India and Govt of India should develop the site as a tourist place like Sarnath at Benaras of Sanchi at Bhupal. How it could be a property of individual religeon? Like all other historical places in India, it should be projected as heritege tomb / temple.
Thanks.
Posted by Gautam Das Gupta , Sr. Accounts Executive at Kilburn Office Automation Ltd., Kolkata. | 30 Sep, 2010
- The verdict has ofcourse got improtance and implication for the future , but the reponse to the whole thing would depend on how the people at the helm of the affairs steer it further. I wish the verdict doesn't swing either ways , rather it is done keeping the social angle in mind. The land may be used for some pertinent social cause; like building a hospital, school, university and the likes
Posted by Ajay Bhandari | 30 Sep, 2010
- The Ayodhya issue was taken to court by the affected parties who had faith in the judiciary. Since then the issue has assumed gigantic dimensions of much complexity not because it is insoluble but because such a status suits certain vested interests.
Posted by Hari Prakash Mishra | 30 Sep, 2010
- i think that almost 18 years have been past in this issue the eager to know the jdjement have been lost and the matter has been more uphold by the polotical parties but the issue has to been solvd outside the court by the religious patries other than thePoiliticals.
Posted by ashok date | 30 Sep, 2010
- The common man does not interested to know legal possession of piece of land, owing to the debated parties like Ram Janmabhoomi-Babari Masque like matters. The Enlightment of God neither depends on his religion but on his devotion. Actually Ram is Rahim and Rahim is Ram. It is stage of mind and body purified with devine touch.
Posted by Kishor , S.O. to Chancellor at Dr. D. Y. Patil University, Pune | 30 Sep, 2010
- India as a country believes in the principle of rule of land. The matter produced before the court is not matter of faith, but matter of title on a particular property. If BMC can take decisions on illegal structures (including temples), then why not the High court. The matter to be decided is not on faith, religion, or gods but on a land which is governed by lands laws of the nation.
What we should think now is does the high court has the free will void of political and religious colour to pressure to take a decision on such a sensitive matter, and not ponder whether Ayodhya is beyond the Jurisdiction of Law.
Regards
Nair
Posted by Kiran Radhakrishnan,HR Manager at Petrochemicals Ltd|30 Sep, 2010
- i feel is every political person sould be kept out of this issue. We can take this as as mere judgment of the Hon'ble Court. Many judgment are passing in the Court so this is one among them.
Political parties are mere creating there own stand for the future Elections.
This is what i feel
Posted by Sonali Agrawal,|30 Sep, 2010
- Courts cannot decide such issues because they go only by acceptable evidences which cannot always be provided particularly when the matter is centuries old.. It is a well known fact that eversince the first muslim set his foot on the Indian subcontinent thousands of hindu temples were destroyed and mosques built in their place. Babari Masjid is just one of them. Since such crimes were perpetrated by the muslim rulers themselves it is quite likely they might have conferred the ownership rights to a wakf board or some such authority. Thus encroachers would have become legitimate owners of the property of the encroached. Since Courts only rely on evidence they may be compelled to decide in favour of the encroachers though it is totally against justice.
Historically muslims have ...See More
Posted by SURESH | 30 Sep, 2010
- Dear All, the Biggest trauma is that despite of the fact that we Indian have been blessed with so many saints, we never ever believed in them nor in our religious books. Tell me frankly how many of us are real Hindus or Muslims. Actually we have never been able to follow the principles laid down by our forefathers. I read some where that people who died because of religion is far greater than people killed in wars. If we are truly religious then what is need of high alert, can't we accept the decision of the Hon'ble Court graciously. These events gives us a chance to check our mind, our patience, our education, our love for our country, our love for other communities and foremost our understanding of religion or God.
Posted by Jatinder Wadhwa | 30 Sep, 2010
- Please don't talk about politicians in this country. Log,Stock and Barrel they are all useless and self-centred. The only hope this country now has is the judiciary. Even with 8 out of 16 past Chief-Justice were corrupt, it is 50% honest versus 50% corrupt. This is a much better ratio than the politicians which, at best, can be 1 honest against 99 corrupt. The common public is now matured and I don' see any possibility of a trouble like 1992 or 1993. Can we not become bold enough to face the reality even after 60 years of court hearing?
Posted by Vikas | 30 Sep, 2010
- The will of the people in India since 1947 was the will of the leaders of the political parties. On the one hand the Constitution of India in its Preamble had provided templates to create a new republic and these the political leaders were not able to decipher properly or willingly ignored to decipher for reasons of ulterior motives promoting self interests of individuals and spreading party influence through power and pelfs. On the other hand, politicians are still happy to create more classifications and stratifications in society by promoting caste and class identities whereby opportunities to 'promote fraternity among citizens' are being lost to the citizens. Against this background, political parties are not likely to come forward to promote fraternity among all communities and ...See More
Posted by George Varuggheese,President at Godimages Good Governance Society|30 Sep, 2010
- In my opinion, it would not add any value with the verdict of High Court to the Society at all. We should not be victim on the hands of political leaders for their own gains that too killing innocent peoples ; rather we must resist such patronage irrespective of cast, creed and religion and focus on strengthening our democracy to the rest world.
It has no effect to the general public whether the said premises was birth place of Ram or Rahim. Let the existing Babri mosque be there irrespective of Court Verdict. This would reflect actual honour to each religion.
Shyamal Dey Biswas, Solutions Delivered to Business,Kolkata.
Posted by Shyamal Dey Biswas , Proprietor at Solutions Delivered to Business. | 30 Sep, 2010
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Unfortunately Congress as a party and as a member of countless Governments that it has formed did not adhere to this basic tenet of governance that secularism is not defined as upholding rights of one section dearer than the others, be it minority or majority.
It is well known fact you cannot please all at all times. This has been a very serious failing of Congress and hence the mess that we see around us in the country.
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Posted by Anil Kohli,Owner at I-Ore Trading|30 Sep, 2010
- Why can't we all get up to follow what SUFI & SPIRITUAL (Aadhyatmic) saints always taught and is eventually an undeniable truth as well. Few hundred years before even if an invader (who did not know that God is "one") demolished something to build something, fact still remains that both 'structures' were meant for worship. God is "one" (Ek Omkar & Aamen) ... so let the same place have two gates for both FAITHS and a third gate for those who believe that all gates & roads (no matter how many) lead finally to the same God.
By the way ... Mumbai in Dadar Kabutarkhana has such shrine which has accommodated many faiths at one place.
Posted by ROHIT MISRA,HEAD LEGAL & COMMERCIAL at KIDS MEDIA INDIA PVT. LTD.|30 Sep, 2010
- In fact there should be monument of freedom with communal India and not any issue of conflect
after all peoples will is final in democracy and we have to respect that .
Posted by Bharat , Ph D Student at Monash University | 30 Sep, 2010
- in current sitution a middle class people does not wants to go in the argument of masjid or mandir would be made in
Ayodhya they wants peace and daily two times mails .govt should think about their food ,shelter,education and jobs
it would be better to build a school,colleges,hospital rather than mandir or masjid this would benifate for both side
Posted by AKHTAR , manager at call centre | 30 Sep, 2010
- Will of the people is the only solution.
Posted by Anmol Jha | 30 Sep, 2010
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